Suggestion New forum rules

Discussion in 'Free communication on a variety of topics' started by Yarvua, 28 November 2023.

  1. Yarvua

    Yarvua Well-Known Member

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    Hi @Admin, @GOODMEN,

    Could you please make the following changes to the group buys
    starting next week and see if the situation improves afterwards:

    1) Remove the additional list, keeping only the main list to quickly
    get the number of participants and thus be able to launch the fundraiser
    faster.

    2) Removal of the "Anonymous" status, so that we can tag participants
    and claim their due.

    And if that's not enough, we could test a temporary ban for 30 days,
    40 days, etc... for those who have committed to pay and don't do so
    within 7 days, for example.
     
  2. Yarvua

    Yarvua Well-Known Member

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    That would avoid this kind of ubiquitous situation.

    Participants requested: 15
    Main list: 16, 9 of whom don't pay!!!
    Additional list: 42

    If all 58 participants were on the main list (without
    anonymous status) I'm sure we'd have collected all
    the payments by now.

    [​IMG]
     
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    renaissance909 Well-Known Member

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    And also add a review for each product :)
     
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    lex55 New Member

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    I totally agree, because of the slowness individual plans have been ruined more than once, you have to be serious, if you want to participate you pay and if not, you don't participate or you buy later if there is a possibility.
     
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  5. Yarvua

    Yarvua Well-Known Member

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    Exactly !
     
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    I agree with Yarvua. Something needs to be changed to improve completion of the GB's.
     
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    Instant donation of $200 per person when joining! After 2 weeks:
    - If you have enough money, buy it right away
    - If there is excess money, the excess will be refunded to those who have contributed
    - If not enough money, full refund

    For example: product 2000$! Lose $200 per person:
    - If there are 10 people, buy right away
    - If there are 20 participants, each person will be refunded $100
    - If there are only 8 participants, $200 will be refunded for each person
     
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    I agree. Actually there is nothing to think about. If you put yourself on the main list you're saying you're gonna make the purchase anyway when the time comes so why not make it immediately.

    I think it's a brilliant idea. I mean I'm in a group buy where 5 people have to pay $10 for the last 2 days and no one has paid anything yet. I mean really?
     
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    Is this rule in the FAQ section actually being enforced?:

    Main list - you can only subscribe to it if
    you are ready to pay this cost within 5 days
    after the announcement of the fundraiser! If you have subscribed to
    the main list has not been paid within 5 days after which you will
    fined twice the amount of fundraising.
    And until you pay this amount you will not be able to participate in the promotion
    other joint purchases!!!
     
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    davejdt2004 Active Member

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    Some good ideas . But I am not up for paying when signing up during the recruitment stage as it may never complete and move to the fund raising stage. I have been and seen Recruitment Stages for numerous products still open for months if not years...so tying up funds does not work for me. On some fund raising stages I have paid and wait for others to pay takes so long . My views only. There is one product I am in on the Fundraising stage where no-one has started paying so honestly I am waiting for a few to start paying . In this case if no-one starts paying say within a week the Purchase Product Forum should be cancelled or abandoned after a warning is posted by Admin. Thoughts?
     
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    I do not take away the reason that if there are not enough people, it is logical that you have a money immobilized there.but I suppose that after a reasonable time could be refunded or apply it in another purchase requesting it. but the other thing you say is just the problem, being in the collection phase waiting for people who committed and do not pay and all those who if we pay are waiting.hence the solution to pay to sign up.also could make the main list and who does not pay in 2 days to the street. there are many formulas, seriousness not so much ....
     
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    I just saw this thread and I give my opinion.
    That's right.. I am stuck in 2 purchases. The first one has been in fundraising for a month and a half. On the main list there are 33 registrants out of the original 30 slots. Of which only 10 have paid, and on the reserve list there are 26 registrants waiting . After a month and a half of fundraising, ONLY 33% of the money has been collected. Im bored.
    In the second purchase, also in fundrising stage, there are only 4 places, of which only 2 have paid, and in the reserve list WE are 3, that we will have to pay more expensive if the purchase is made or we will give up the purchase out of sheer boredom.

    So I think it is right to give a minimum time limit to pay if you are on the main list. If you do not pay, you will be removed from the main list and the first on the reserve list will take your place. I understand that it is a huge effort for the administrators, but it will be beneficial for the forum.
     
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    We carefully read all user reviews and look for solutions to improve. I can remove the anonymous status right now if you agree
     
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    Agreed ! Those who failed to make their payment can be categorized in the "failed" list by the Admin. Those failed pay personnel in the main list can be marked with color RED names. They will be required to pay an additional 20% in the next group buy. Upon joining and making the payment in the subsequent group buy, they will automatically revert to the normal status with color BLUE names.
     
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    Hello @Admin,

    Thank you for considering our suggestions for improving this forum
    and getting it back to the way it was when I first came here.

    Yes, we should:

    1) Remove anonymity so that we can tag the "tone deaf" and ask them
    for their money back.
    2) Delete the reserve list until the main list is full.
    3) Block bad payers from buying another product for, say, 30 days.

    Unfortunately, there is no perfect solution. But we absolutely must find
    a way to FORCE people who sign up for a group buy to PAY within 5 to
    7 days.
     
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    AGREED
     
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    @Yarvua I agree with you.

    The main reason of problems you describe in first post is that over the time people lose trust in this forum.

    How is it possible that expert advisors continue to be offered that are known to be a scam or some that do not even work?

    Many people have lost confidence in this forum and that is why they wait until have more confidence about the product that is offered.

    If you want to put an end to the lack of commitment of some buyers, the owners of this forum have to improve their filters and make sure that the product offered is original and works.

    stop the sale of products that the majority of buyers have described as fraudulent or that do not work as well.

    You can always lose money with advisors and trading, when I say that they work it is not that they make money, it is that they work correctly in the trading terminal.
     
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    Just giving my two cents
    I agree with a lot of what has been said earlier.
    I don't think that making things very strict is a good idea

    My suggestion is:
    New members and/or people with less then certain amount of confirmed purchases have to pay upon joining the purchase
    After a certain amount of time, when the fundrising has not been completed, give a warning, close the purchase, and let the ones who have reallocate their funds
    Remove backup and reserve lists (at least until the main list is full)

    This is a bit of a bigger project, but:
    Add a credit system to the site. Easier for all parties involved to keep track of refunds and payments.
    Rather than count cents and do conversions every time we buy, we could just add a larger amount to our accounts and spend it as we see fit.
    (Like on mql5 you can't withdraw your balance)
     
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  19. Yarvua

    Yarvua Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    Thank you for your message.

    I hope all our opinions will help the Admins to make this forum faster for purchases.