Scam SpreadProfessor Futures Spread Trading Course

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    Luci Well-Known Member

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    While the product is being delivered I am investigating some websites related to spread trading

    Has anyone heard of any of these sites or others like them and can you give your opinion?

    SeasonAlgo
    SpreadPlanner
    MRCI
    SpreadCharts
    ....

    Have a nice weekend
     
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    SeasonAlgo and MRCI are competitors - They both provide Seasonal characteristics of spreads. That's a good starting point if you want to trade seasonals. But knowing why will make you a better trader. For example : Heating oil (HO) demand is high in winter months and gasoline (RBOB) in Summer months. That 'coz heating oil to heat homes in winter and gasoline so people do outdoor activities and drive in summer. This simplistic understanding will tell you if the HO demand will be less if the weather prediction is warmer winters or a COVID kind of time when people don't travel.

    As far as Spreadplanner or Spreadcharts - I don't know but looks like they are also coming with some seasonal trends. And oh, everyone started using AI for the sake of saying they are cutting edge - that's B.S.

    BTW, you can do the same on a chart plotting the two or three legs you want to spread and see why and when it moves.
     
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    Thanks for your explanation

    There is a lot of data on the Internet but it is not easy to interpret it.

    I'm trying to filter the information to avoid going crazy.... ;)
     
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    Can you use this methodology for quick scalping a couple of ticks multi[ple times a day? Or is this more based on swing trading?
     
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    Scalping is more of a high liquidity strategy where you get in and out in a jiffy to gain a tick here and tick there.

    With Spreads you are dealing with multiple legs, so getting in out and out fast for a few ticks is not feasible and the synthetic market is not as liquid as the outrights that make them, let alone getting a favorable fill.

    Plus you don't need to scalp as you have a hedging position to begin with.

    I swing for big returns- and also take small profits fequently but not scalps
     
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    The essence of spreading is a mean reversion model. I've built intraday trading models and run backtests since the clubbuy was done; and have some good results now. I don't know what spread professor would bring to me; but my works are based on spreading and they're good for intraday trading.
     
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    I guess he predominatly shows you to do the 1SD back to mean fade trade and a lot of butterflies and condors - it could be both mean-reversion and also finding and riding trend based on technical patterns from what I read on this forum
     
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    I am lookiing forward to some inter-market types. May I ask that what's the difference of butterfly/condor between options and futures spreading?
     
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    well, it's the same in both options and futures when it comes to the structure of it -- but in futures, they are in different calendar months and in options they are different strike price. Obiously because you don't have multiple strike prices in futures and so the behavior changes.

    In Futures -1 Mar +2Apr -1 May (1:2:1) will be the butterfly and -1mar +1apr +1may -1jun will be condor. This is equidistance in months so you can also do broken wing if you like
     
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    I have tried spread/hedge/arbitration for intraday spread and it is really difficult to maintain profitability

    I think the swing has less risk and more profits over time

    Some links to tests I have done with tools/bots

    Universal Arbrtitation (Autotrade)
    It has been profitable but requires continuous updating of parameters as the market changes, you practically have to optimize daily
    https://clubbingbuy.com/threads/margin-trading-bots.9633/

    Tools
    Good tool that does its job of creating and sending spreads to NT8, knowing how to use it can be profitable to trade manually
    https://clubbingbuy.com/threads/spread-trading-tools-futures-trading-spread-tools-nt8.10154/

    Autotrade
    100% automatic BOT, I have tested it for 1 month with more losses than gains, it is possible that I have been patient and did not know how to configure the parameters correctly
    https://hftalgo.gumroad.com/l/hedge?layout=profile
     
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    I conduct my own research and backtest my models. Maybe you should do it, too. If those EAs could make consistent profits, there's no reason to sell them.
     
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    @Admin , @Gurminj Do you have an ETA on when this will be delivered ?
     
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    You will get a notification when it is in the delivery department.
    This can be a couple of days, weeks, months....
     
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    If the reason for the slow delivery is that the custom indicators need to get unlocked, then please just deliver us the course, that brings the most value, the indicators are completely optional.
     
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    Can't tell the reason. So far, they only reply "soon" like a bot.
     
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    Soon, a little patience please
     
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    Sure - Thanks.

    If you can let us know the reseller that you are buying from - we can create a fake demand to say we will buy if it's an instant delivery or something ... lol
     
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    Are there problems getting this product? It is already some weeks now since we paid....‍♂️
     
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    This thread has awakened my interest in this type of operation...

    I have bought this book and am trying some software related to it.

    SeasonalSpreads.JPG

    Scarrtrading is not the best visually but it is the one I prefer for now, its creator is always available to answer questions.
     
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